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  Did you avoid becoming a elder in order to take care of your family?

  by flipper in

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  i was raised in the witnesses from the 1960's on and my dad was an elder who invariably was taking care of congregation problems with publishers, constantly.

  how many of us remember wives and children sitting at the back of the halls waiting for an after meeting elders meeting to finish, only to get more frustrated as an hour or so would go by?

  for those of us raised in this it was always congregation business first, family second.

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  I am an ex elder. I could never understand elders that put the congregation before their own family. When my first child started high school I could see that I needed to spend more time at home than i could if i were an elder, so I resigned. To be fair, the org. literature always said to put your family first. To me it is more of an inditement of the men who beocme elders and there reason for doing so. It is for personal glory and not necessarily to serve others. Case in point, my wife's father has been and elder for over 45 years and every thing she has ever done has been looked at through the lens of how it would reflect on him. She has a lot of resentment about that.

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  worthless

  by bigdreaux in

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  ever had one of those days, where you can do nothing right, and you feel utterly and completly worthless?

  i'm having one of those days today.

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  I dropped a test lead and blew up a 1,500.00 circuit board today so don't feel so bad. just remember, the only person that doesn't make a mistake is the person who doesn't do anything!!

  RV
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  My first and hopefully last vent on JWD

  by nvrgnbk in

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  i was talking to my trying-to-exit-the-cult fraternal twin brother yesterday about life, the jehovah's witness cult, and our jw parents.. he repeated, calmly and succintly, that he hates our parents.

  i could not argue with him.

  i used to, being a parent myself.

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  Better you vent here rather than at VT with a gun!!

  all my best, RV
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  ability to digest milk - prove of natural selection in humans?

  by DannyBloem in

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  found this scientific article:.

  basically it is found that early europeans (7000 years ago) were mostly lacking the gene that makes it posible to digest milk.. modern europeans have this gene for 90%.

  they argue that the gene has advantage for childhood survival and therefore has become dominant.. this proves natural section at work.

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  To be fare, I don't think that the WTS ever said that there was no natural selection only that it doesn't prove evolution only adaptation. They say that things do adapt to there environment. They say that certain traits can be brought out, look at all of the different type of dogs but no matter how much you breed special traits a dog will never evolve into something else. However, I dissagree, I can see too much evidence of evolution to discount it.

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  Playing the lottery. Why does the WTBS ban it?

  by quixote in

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  the megamillions in new jersey (where i work) and other states is up to u.s.$260,000,000.

  got my ticket, my hopes and my dream.

  i can't remember the reason why as a jw i was told it was wrong to participate in the lottery, bingo and other such games.

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  This has been a particular pet peve of mine. Since gambling is not prohibited in the bible, the WTS prohibits gambling by saying that if you gamble you are doing it because you are greedy and greed is a sin.

  Now I have a problem with this on many levels. First of all why is it that everybody that gambles is greedy? If so then isn't investing your money in the stock market to make money without working for it greedy as well, and dosen't the WTS invest millions?

  Secondly how does this sin rise to the level of a disfellowshiping offense? Nowhere in the bible does it say to shun greedy people?

  Just my thoughts

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  Do you make mistakes?

  by Frannie Banannie in

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  i makes lots of mistakes.

  in words and deeds.

  i'm usually flying by the seat of my pants and don't think before i say and do things sometimes.

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  I haqve never made a mistake! Oh wait , nevermind, I have.
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  I feel bad about being a part of this...

  by sibboleth in

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  several years ago, approx 1995, i was a newbie elder - age 29 and was just doing the "yes man" duties around the hall.

  there was the overbearing po who was the "king" of the congo and whatever he said was gospel... if he didn't like you - you were history... needless to say - i kissed his butt and moved up the ladder quite easily.

  we had another newbie elder - in his late 40's - and he was a smart man.

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  Sibboleth,

  I can't agree more that what happened to those brothers was a shame. I also agree that the WTS is not God's organization. However I can't agree its not God's organization because of stories like these. These things happened even among the apostles in Jesus day. The reason this is not God's organization is that they don't adhere to the teachings of Jesus. Namely that we are to love God and Neighbor. By there doctrine they make the schriptures invalid.

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  My Debut

  by TheMan in

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  after lurking for who knows how many months now, i finally did it.

  i posted!!!!

  i'll have to share my story at some point, but here's what made me do it.

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  Congrats "Man"

  It worked the other way around for me. My wife came out first, and I was the one to then let her know I felt the same way.

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  from Gone With the Wind

  by purplesofa in

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  i took these pics of the old mill last week........thought you might enjoy.......the old house is the house i lived in as a teenager and also was married in.

  the old mill is only a few short blocks from this house.. http://www.northlittlerock.org/old_mill.html.

  the old mill in the opening scenes from gone with the wind.

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  Hey purps,

  I too am from the south (New Orleans) and have alway been interested in the old south. Thanks for the pics and the memories they invoke.

  RV
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  Faith in angelic help waning? WT March 1 and March 15, 2007

  by truthseeker in

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  in the march 1st and march 15th issues of the watchtower, there is a paragraph in the study article about.

  the help that angels give in the preaching work.. however, i have noticed something not mentioned before - watchtower uses the phrase "too numerous to be dismissed as coincidence" twice.. quotes are below:.

  march 1, 2007 - watchtower.

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  Why weren't the angels there for me. My faith is on the rocks and all that the angles provided for me is this discussion board.

  RV